Awaken your intuition and love life with Deb Petrille

Awaken your intuition and love life with Deb Petrille


Welcome to the taste of sensuality lady beautiful lady I wanted to Just really give a big. Thank you and Appreciation and love to my wonderful guest today She has been in my life for quite some time now, even though we don’t see each other all the time because she lives in in She lives an organ. I live in LA and we don’t see each other, but we met in LA and she came into my life when I first learned about Orgasmic meditation and we were at a play day that they had after the training and it She was just a light I think she’s I mean honestly one of the people in the world that I could say she could be my sister like we’re so connected, but she’s like, you know, I just I can’t wait to share her with you because her level of intuition and her abilities to support people in their intuition and use and utilize her and her amazing clairvoyance is Beyond anything that I think that we’re ever told that it’s okay to have so So, let me welcome Deb Petrelli to the show today. Thank you for being here on the taste of sensuality Thank you, darling. This is exciting Thank you for having me and taking the time to set this all up and yeah Let’s go Let’s play And we have played a lot we we’ve had a lot of really good times together so Deb I just wanted to start off by if you could give us a little background about yourself in terms of Clara buoyancy on seeing past the physical and into a life full of love and joy and Reaching those desires that we all want to come into our life Wow, that is a big question I knew that I was able to See intuitively which is clairvoyance when I was a preteen and My parents thought that it was really fun and and so we played games with it until They started to kind of tease me my family started to kind of tease me and some other things happen and I shut it down and but I was always intuitive and things like Walking past a restaurant and just kind of like looking in there and just knowing that no, this is not a place I want to eat and or this is a great place to eat and And winning football pools and and things like that. I just thought it was normal I thought it was just normal and then um, I was a very busy Businesswoman crazy busy. Um, I was in finance. I was climbing the corporate ladder and And I got to as high as I wanted to go literally on the top of the Bank of America building At a event where I was the only woman there and There were all men and I felt like a piece of meat not Like someone who had an education not like someone who had worked very hard to get to that place breaking barriers Being a woman and just still feeling like a piece of meat and it was like there’s just something not right here well, lo and behold about six months later things started to shift and change and I Decided to Find out about this Food product that was a natural food product and and that’s when I met my clairvoyant teacher and I was just going to Take meditation classes So that I could relax It was like I had like nine irons in the fire and and in that first meditation class I came out of it with wow this works and and so I kept going back and and what I didn’t realize was was that what I was in was a clairvoyant training program and and I did that for 15 years and so This ability that I had as a child got stronger and stronger and I’ve done many many other types of programs that have strengthened the ability and And it serves me very very well hmm, that’s a beautiful story and so What have you done, you know as what kinds of things have you done in your experience with? With your clairvoyance and how was it served you and others in the world? Well, I started out just as a student for many years developing the ability to see and and what that meant and so many many classes and then I was in a teacher’s program so I could so I could teach how tools to develop clairvoyance and and then I started doing another type of work that Added on to this ability which then I start to notice That not only was I clairvoyant I was clear sentient which is the ability to feel or empathic Sensitivity the ability to be an impact and oh boy. Was that fun? So now I’m I’m can close my eyes. I can see something and I can feel it at the same time now what this does for me as far as a practitioner in this work is that So someone will come to me and they will ask me questions and I will see pictures, but I will also feel emotions from them and this is a Really great way to go in deeper to whatever their questions are So do you find that What’s your opinion of like all women? Do you think all women have the ability for? intuition and if we put I know clairvoyance is one and clairsentience another There are different forms of that Intuition, do you think all women have intuition? Absolutely? absolutely women all women have intuition and it’s yeah, and it’s just Do they want to develop it? Do they want to strengthen it? Do they want to Not be afraid of it. So yeah, so that’s interesting that you I felt a lot of sensation around that like the fear because that felt In my experience just with my own intuition I Find that it is scary to know something before it happens It can be right until you get comfortable with it. So I find that That’s what happened for me like I was really scared or I would hear like really great guidance as a child and It almost felt like I wanted to rebel against it. I don’t know you Existed what I didn’t want to know that and so I did drugs and drank and that just totally shut me now hmm and it allowed me to kind of like be the rebel or experience contrast as different and Then like you said once I let it flow Then I feel like why did I ever shut it down? But I think you’re right. It’s around this acceptance As the world can accept it I think that often times don’t you think we get scared? Because it’s not something like you talk about money and finance right? It’s not like there’s not a clear You know one plus one equals two path. It’s just an open universe and you’re in that and there’s no I don’t know just like no format or know like unexplainable things would you think that that has something to do with the fear or Like you can’t quantify it. I would say that the fear is mostly around acceptance the fear that You see something and you say what it is that you see that the person you’re saying it to says. Oh no No, that’s not true and And that could be just as okay. You’re wrong, too I’m gonna punish you somehow for this knowledge. This hat that you have and hey, maybe it is true And then they’re like no. No, this is not true. And so Then then the intuitive ability starts to you start to question it and Do I really have this is this right? Does it work? You know, can I use it? How can I use it? and there’s There’s a lot that happens when you first start to develop it Another thing is is sometimes it will come on fast And it’s like oh I heard my boyfriend talking about somebody else clear across town you know just in my mind in my ear and and That can be really scary So there there are lots of things. It’s it’s really wonderful to develop intuitive gifts with a group of people Who are also doing the same thing because they’re having the same experiences Yeah Yeah, I have so many questions for you. Um, I think for me when And I’m gonna go back to this trust thing that I was talking about with trusting ourselves you know and I think that is the the most powerful part that we could ever be in is trusting ourselves, and I know that When my hip my former husband was having an affair and I felt it like I knew it I saw the vision I I could feel it happening and when he denied it and told me I was you know crazy for thinking that I think that when I finally it was confirmed that he was you know having an affair I Was mad at myself more than him. Hmm because I doubted me and I knew it. Yeah Now and and that that was that was harder to get over than what he had done yeah It’s like that self-betrayal right? I know I have this experience. I know I have this feeling but I’m not I’m I’m letting someone else tell me it’s not true. Yeah Yeah, and when you Really work with your intuition and like on a daily basis You get to a point where okay, I know that’s true and It doesn’t matter if it’s confirmed to me or not. I just know it’s true and maybe sometimes I’m wrong, you know, but and That’s okay, too. So you start to let go of the attachment of Having to know if you’re right and and just be with the experience of oh, this is cool Okay. I’m kind of ahead of everybody on this. This is awesome You know and I’m gonna use this so that it makes my life better. Oh That’s some really that’s really great Not attached to the outcome not attached to the outcome. Yes. Yeah Well, and you and I learned through one taste, you know Especially and I’m sure you learn it through being a clairvoyant and and it sort of being intuitive is Surrender. Yes Oh Surrender it’s You know, it’s I don’t think that That I just recently, you know, I’m just you know It’s like you get it you get it you get it and then all of a sudden you just really get it Yeah, you do. Yep and then you see how Surrender as a as a woman our most powerful feminine place is So so much more in the flow to create from whether it’s business You know climbing the ladder you might say creating business Creating babies. I mean that doesn’t you know when you surrender I know a lot of people who wanted it wanted it wanted it right and then they let go and then it just came right? Now that that place of surrender whoa to me that has so much to do with Intuition would you say that as well? surrender and intuition yes, because when when you’re not attached, so that is surrender and When you’re quiet and still and you’re in a place of waiting and it’s not waiting as in an anxiety type of waiting it is it’s just a it’s just a place of stillness and So that that quiet stillness and Surrender allows you to just kind of sit in the the process of okay, it’s going to come to me it is going to come to me and and then and then the other thing that I’ve learned also with Being an intuitive is that I will get like hits there. I call them hits or signs and those hits and signs Will they’re like guideposts and they’ll tell me okay, go this direction or start looking at that direction or I’ll start getting these signs that are telling me don’t go that way and don’t put your eggs in that basket and you know and and what happens what’s been happening over the last several years is is That I am at a place where I see things coming before they actually happen and this is mostly for me personally as a Practitioner it’s different. I’m I’m looking at in the moment, but for me personally I’m able to Basically create my world and and then see if that if that’s going to happen Mmm, that’s really good. Yeah, that’s where I felt You know just to just a comment, you know, like what you’re speaking about what I’m relating that to is When I was you know, it’s like when you get to a certain age you start to see like you have a lot of talents or you have a lot of gifts and Then what can you do and I’ve always been Drawn to support others, especially women. I mean just something about Being a woman that I resisted once I let it in and the more I let it in right just I felt like Being a woman wasn’t an honorable thing. It wasn’t a good thing I mean and that was just my interpretation from what my dad would say but then as I leaned into it and especially around that piece of sensuality and sexuality and I Had this inner knowing when I was a kid like there was nothing bad with it Like there seemed to be such a stigma around sensuality and sexuality like no you shouldn’t do it and it’s shameful or it’s this or it’s that and when I was speaking with you know, one of my coaches she said to me I had spoken to her about a client who was 61 and having the best sex of her life after she started seeing me and it was just my ability to listen to her and how she let go and surrendered and went into that place of her femininity and she had been Powerful businesswoman right and just really had led her life from that masculine energy. And now all of a sudden she was surrendering and Feeling more sensation. Yes, and just when I Realized that I’m like, oh, I don’t have any shame around sex. I don’t have a nation Even though my intuition was saying that’s the path that love the combination of Love play sensuality, you know those little pieces of That brightness up as women that was where my path list and I resisted it for so long just because I had this ideal right and so I can see how what you’re speaking to is like this ability to you know surrender let go and receive and like you said see your future, you know, like see the path like It’s to say I’ve never liked I don’t know Because I don’t believe that’s true. I believe we do know if like you said if we’re silent enough please surrender and then in that space of silent surrender, um we received the knowing I call it then inner know we Billet II – really? I am see at least the first step in that direction, right? Yes yeah, so It’s definitely why I know that we’re connected because we met in a in a place that we’re both You know, we’re both mothers. We’re both sensual turned on women and And we both love to enjoy living our life from that place of that inner knowing Yes Even though we can get lost like we can want something. I think what’s always throwing me off my path is when I get I’m not taking care of myself. I get lonely because I I’m not seeing my connection. So I view that it I’m lonelier. I’m You know, I’m just not in the connection that I really want to be in And then that messes me up Oh hi, and then I start doing things that I know is not feeling right like you said going into that restaurant when I knew That experience wasn’t gonna be good Yeah, yeah, so what would you say has been So you talked about your your break stirs in your life and and I’m sure that your as all of us we’re constantly having them but I Read something on your website about you being like sick and just in a different You know kind of way of being as opposed to you are now what do you think was a breakthrough moment for you? Oh my breakthrough a moment, so I had digestive issues for ten years and went to all doctors and specialists and And they really weren’t able to Help me. I got it down to it was it was livable, but I was I was never well and And then I ended up getting a pinched nerve in my show older my right shoulder and and I went to my doctor and and he gave me muscle relaxers and I took the muscle relaxers and and It went away but as soon as the muscle relaxers were gone the pain came back and it was worse and so into the doctor and I said This didn’t work. What else have you got and he gave me another prescription and I heard in my head and so this is like my Ability my ability I heard in my head a voice and the voice was the voice of my mother-in-law and it was all honey it takes the edge off and what she was talking about was vicodin and And I was like, uh-uh. I’m not doing this. I’m not going down this path I’m 32 years old and I’m not going down this path and and so I just lived with the pain in my shoulder and ended up via a friend saw my first chiropractor and that chiropractor did more for me in a week than any doctor had done up into that point and so and what ended up happening was the work that he did led me to the superfood that helped me with my digestion that that led me to my teacher that helped me with my stress that had it be that I started to work on my spiritual gifts and And to find out wow, I’m really gifted and and then to develop them Wow Wow Do you think like I always have this in the back of my head. Do you think that The more sensitive intuitively the more sensitive spiritually we are becoming the more sensitive we are to maybe diet and you know environment and That’s just a question. It’s always come at me. What is your thoughts? um, it’s actually it’s it’s where I’m headed now into into a much deeper study and We call it empathic sensitivity and it’s it is this ability to feel other people feel other people’s pain feel other people’s Joy, feel other people’s whatever feel even just the mass consciousness um and so say you’re in a grocery store and somebody walks by you and their stomach hurts and All of a sudden your stomach starts hurting and it’s like ooh, what did I eat? It might not have been what you ate. It might have been what you ate it might just be this this the sense of wow, I’m feeling that other person and And so all of those things I take everything you take the environment you take sounds you take electronics you take food you take Practices, it’s just all of those things. Um can cause sensations can cause disease can cause Um, you know not being able to sleep it’s like it’s it’s really interesting to me right now is to discern the difference between What is something that I’m putting into my body? that’s causing me discomfort Versus what is something that I’m feeling outside of my body that’s causing me discomfort Wow that’s That’s pretty Amazing. Thank you. Um, yeah, I can see that That would be true, you know, and I you know going back to that match about our emotional beings, you know, I think that By attaching to our emotions and then attracting emotions from others that are similar I stuff we haven’t resolved or oh, yeah, so that’s like a like someone is a mirror and you’re you’re meeting them you’re Interacting with them and you see yourself in them and and it’s like that gives you the opportunity one maybe you’ve got some your energy in them and you’re calling it back and also, oh Wow Those behaviors maybe I don’t like those behaviors anymore Maybe I’m gonna change them. Now, you know, yeah. Yeah, there’s nothing like looking at your child. I mean, this is my experience and seeing stuff that they you know you do and they’re doing and then you’re just like Yeah, I might want to take a look at that in myself So, how do you think that so now that you’ve been trained to help others Enlighten their Their intuitive abilities their clairvoyance or clairsentience or claircognizance And what is the other one clarence audience there you go. Thank you for that reminder there’s four I’m sure I’m sure there’s more we’re just going by you know by the four that are the main ones, right? Yeah So, what did you learn that? Like what’s something that you know our listeners could? begin to practice in their life that would support them to 1 listen to their intuition more surrender more and Experience more, you know joy pleasure You know have a better experience of life So there were two thoughts that came to me the first one was meditation and To met it, but a lot of people have difficulty with meditation because they think they’re doing it wrong and in slow meditation can work for some people and Then they don’t judge and then they don’t judge themselves And so then they can really start to tap into that other voice, you know that voice. That’s not the that’s not the rabbit on the wheel and And there but the other thing that is really great to develop intuition or tarot cards And and the way that I learned how to read to RO was I was given a deck and the person who gave me the deck said don’t read the book and I’m like what? I don’t know how to do this Like what did she said don’t read the book I’m like, okay and so in because I was training as a clairvoyant I kind of got what she meant by don’t don’t read the book and so what I started to do was I would do I would just create spreads that made sense to me and then would read the cards themselves and the deck that I have is is very very visual lots of pictures and and use that to be able to answer questions and And then and to also, you know, do those short little readings for other people too. And that was a way that that you can Start with finding out if you want to develop This ability that you have to hear outside of yourself to see outside of yourself to to feel outside of yourself it sounds like it’s almost like I mean, you know, I love play and I think it’s like a game right you can just play the game of Intuition. All right, let’s just put it that way and You can meditate which I’ve found Even just meditating on Coming up with an experience right a beautiful experience. I have like a Meditation that I do that I definitely want to share with people, but that that experience of going back to being a child I’d have experience I always say, you know like an experience when you were a child that you felt expanded because some of us You know were yeah had contracted childhood But when you fell to expand and you felt safe What where was the scenery and just by going into that scenery or? Going I call it going up the staircase and then into the scenery you Know you can just see what’s around. Just noticing right? So I think it occupies your brain enough to let you be outside of the world. Yeah inside of yourself To hear right to maybe hear or experience or feel or whatever you’re you know Whatever your strongest sense is and then also What I heard you say is like play the game of like the tarot cards like what does this car? Like I remember I think you did this in one taste too. We just read palms Mmm, you know and we just look at someone’s poem and then we would just read whatever we saw Totally, you know, so just something like fun and playful would you also say that? like Just being comfortable like how would you be comfortable with? messages or things that you’re receiving as you’re going there another way to get messages is to Do stream of consciousness writing? So you just sit down with? Your favorite pen and a book of paper you know in a Big binder of paper or journal and you just start writing and it doesn’t matter what it is that you’re thinking It’s just like whatever it is just anything that comes to you just write and write and write and write and write and what happens is if you have like a thought a thought will come in or an idea will come in and And it and you know, as soon as you’re as you’re going through, it’s like oh that’s different Well, that’s that’s a message from outside of your brain. And so, you know, another piece is coming through the other thing Yeah, another way to do it, which is also fun is to do stream of consciousness writing with your non-dominant hand And then the other thing and then if you want to do that The next thing you can do is you can do stream of consciousness writing going back and forth between hands It’s like okay, my higher self is talking to me. So it’s like okay I’m at the level of my higher self something something that is bigger than I am has has infinite wisdom and is not the brain and And the brain is over here and the brain is asking the question and the other and the other hand But the not dominant hand is answering. So the right so the dominant hand is asking the question the dawn’ dominant hand is is Answering the question that is also a way to tap into in your intuitive ability Wow So, where do you think the biggest The most discovery or the most Openness, what is caused you to feel the most open? Using utilizing your gifts as an intuitive Umm-hmm relationships Yes, now we’re into one of our favorite subjects Yes relationships and especially my ability to to read faces and to read to read expression and to be able to see the to be able to see emotions in a face and and also to be like on a date and and get that that red flag, you know, it’s like oh Yeah, I don’t think this is gonna work Okay, all right, you know let’s finish this one up and and other things you know it really Really really has served me in a relationship Yeah, yeah so, um What What’s exciting in your in a relationship in your life? Oh I have a great relationship right now. Um, I I called him my paramour and it is an open relationship and And he has other partners and It’s oh man, it’s the best because I have my time with him and we have an incredibly strong connection and Um, the sex is phenomenal phenomenal and And and it’s really great to work on the practice of non-attachment Because I’m sharing him so yeah and how is that for you it works perfectly And you know, I think it’s because of years of experience in in relationships and in dating and and also in a place where I am right now in my life where I really want to grow my business and You know, so that’s that’s my passion. That’s my baby and um, and he’s very supportive of all that I am and It just works it just totally works So what I hear you saying is you have a lot of time To to grow your business and and take care of you. Yeah and still have this passionate Loving relationship. Yeah and and friendships too. So, I’ve got my business I work and I mean, I have a regular day job right now and I have friendships that are very strong and Yeah Mmm, that’s awesome. And how do you think that You know when you’re talking about that relationship and I would say just even I don’t think it’s limited to Just loving relationships with men. I would say that intuition also can transform your life in the kinds of relationships you tracked as women, you know the kind of friendships like I would say When I met you I’d say my intuition was like she’s my person I mean I’m gonna be friends with her And it’s like there’s there’s um, there’s a Vibration, you know lately like you you’re so joyful. You’re so happy you you look at life with this like it’s all good and Challenge challenges are are great because challenges make us stronger and you know Challenges have it be that we’ll find we’ll find the thing that it is that we really want to be and then we won’t have that challenge anymore and it’s just it’s all of this like moving forward and being joyful and Just Yeah, it’s like not dwelling on the negative and not um Not making excuses and and things like that So it’s like so so being so the the ability to feel and the ability to see an ability here You know kind of under the surface, it’s like those other conversations of oh, I wish I was someplace else or I really should be doing this and hmm. Yeah Maybe they’re not very fun Or or maybe I or this is and my big big thing that I’m still working on but have become very aware of is I’m not going to fix you and You know and it’s like because that’s what I I just like in the past would just keep putting myself out there I’m gonna fix this. I’m gonna fix you. I’m gonna fix the situation I’m gonna make it better, you know, all of these types of things and That was part that was part of that pulling back was really how I got into the practice of stillness and surrender and You know and being very quiet inside myself so what I hear you saying is your your practice of non-attachment in Relationship and not I think so many of us women can fall into that pattern of fixham Like let me fix him or let me fix her. Let me fix this, you know, give this purpose give us us meaning I also want to honor that we like transformation, you know, so it’s that easy balance of Supporting others by who you are right truly and then not being attached to what they choose Yes Yeah very much and so how would you say that you’ve been able to take your clairvoyance and your intuitive abilities and Put it into your business or even in your business your day job Okay, so in my day job I’m gonna I’m gonna go back to the stillness and the surrender and the quietness is is having the intuitive ability and empathic ability to kind of like see under the radar like be under the radar one and also to see under the radar and just really be very present and very aware of all the nuanced things that are happening around me and to kind of be ahead of like big announcements or Big changes that are about to happen these are things this actual disability is actually really honed and And so what it does, is it it? Helps me not get nervous not get anxious and And to be able just stay in a state of flow with with whatever is happening and and yeah I still have my anxious times and I still have my nervous times, but I find that this ability to Yeah, it’s like see under the radar it really helps yeah I can see that with you because my experience of you even in you know as a busy professional businesswoman that you are is Your ability to What I’m seeing now is care for yourself and not to So often I think as women we can get very stressed out anxious Especially when we’re on a lot of that masculine energy in business versus just bringing our gifts and being feminine and so Do you have to remind yourself of that do you you know, is that a practice for you to stay feminine I know It’s just a natural thing And when I stopped um being worried what people thought about me oh Yeah, and you know and I, you know have crystals on my desk at work and you know and and really feel into the relationships and you know, how much can I share about you know, my my inch in my eccentricities and And things like that and how much do I stay in the straight and narrow it’s like all of those things they allow me to be me and they allow me to be creative because the feminine is creative and it’s a creative energy and and also to be happy and to be joyful and to you know, and to laugh and Yeah, yeah, I’ve in fact I would say in the last couple of years I’ve really found my my amusement and my sense of humor and These things will really get you through the tough times Mmm, I love that your sense of humor. We get you through the tough times. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that’s I think going back to that non-attachment because I feel like there’s a theme here Through what we’re talking about and it’s really that that deep non-attachment to outcomes and I know that’s for me. You know, I I still work in the medical profession as well, you know building a company and startup two-and-oh And you know it’s a daily basis because you know, we do a lot of Patient service so patients call us and if they don’t like what we’re saying or how we sound or you know, whatever it is, right? It’s not getting attached to Like thinking from a place of like we’re doing it wrong and you say they’re fixing it right – we’re doing the best we can Mm-hmm It’s not always going to be for everyone else you know, and I think that If what came up for me in this moment, you know with you was Do you mind sharing your age because you would not believe this woman she does not She’s like an angel looking this is what laughter and pleasure do to you Yeah, I’ll be 58 in June July July, oh my gosh, I mean, I think you look younger now than I’ve ever seen you before and like what we’ve been friends for like five years. Uh-huh. So So you think you just get younger and I do have this belief that you can grow younger. Oh, I do too. Absolutely Yeah, and what I think that you’re a great example in this in this podcast you know on this level is your ability to Take the joy and run with it like just practice that Joey like and I think this happens as you become a mature woman is That ability to like what you said stop caring about what other people think except for you, like once you know who you are once you’re comfortable in your skin and So many women could not be in open relationships. Its Yeah And it is a practice in non-attachment and and And it’s also a practice in in connection really really deep connection and Yeah, it’s it’s wonderful really wonderful and intimacy and Communication like I mean you have to be able to trust the person that you’re in that relationship with. Yeah, and the thing that’s really wonderful about him is that he’s he’s been doing open relationship for a really long time and and He moves very very slow hmm, so it worked out perfectly when I met him because I came out of a I I mean I consciously was celibate for two and a half years and and I did that because I wanted something more than just casual sex and And so I didn’t and I didn’t know what that thing was and it and it took and it took that long Period of time for me to really go deep inside myself and find myself and that was you know getting Stiller and and Surrendering and not being attached and and all of these things. I was also I was also really dealing with Severe headaches at the time, too But when I came when I when that started to lift and and it was like okay, I’m starting to come back out again and Starting to like flirt and be flirted with and you know it’s just like the whole it just it just blossomed and then I met him and it’s like thing was slow very very slow and and in that slowness we Created a lovely connection almost like a think of it like a thread it was it was like we were making a tapestry and and one of the one of the threads was connection and one of the threads is sensuality and one of the threads is sexuality and one of the threads is Is is some? sub Dom and one of the threads is great food And one of the threads is music and it’s just all of these so it’s like this tapestry has been created very very slowly Over the time and yeah, so I would say if you’re gonna do open do it slow That’s that’s powerful and I love that you’re bringing up something that isn’t for you know may not be for everyone but it’s the possibility for anyone that wants it ya know and I think that as women especially as we get into Our mature years. We have a lot of wisdom and a lot of things that we just Been taking care of people and now we’re just like, oh, I just may want to just do my own thing, you know so it’s another option to have connection and love and and I think even commitment on a certain level because you you you have that You know, it’s I Admire people that can do it. I’m not sure that that flavor is for me at least You know, I’ve I’ve I’ve experimented in the past and it really does take a lot of Like you said surrender patience understanding communication Which I think are just like the amazing parts of a relationship anyways, and like I heard you say just there’s this slowness and I heard this and I’ve mentioned this a lot of times but I heard this amazing coach. She said If you want to speed up in your life slow down Yes Absolutely Mm-hmm. Yeah, so it’s it’s so powerful to see that that is you know when it’s really manifesting for someone like you who’s Who’s so youthful and beautiful and an inspiration to me for women like after they go through menopause? that they can still have amazing sex and the best sex and Still have sensation. Yeah, I’m such a high level versus What we think everything’s just gonna shut down Circle it up and we’re just gonna die No, no, I heard Tony Robbins talk to this couple that was like in their 80s and they were just like giddy and loving and they’re like He’s like how long have you been together? We’ve been together 50 years and we still like they can’t get enough of each other That’s though. I think that’s That’s a good place for us to really be clear as women that we can still have so much pleasure. And From that place of stillness from that place of slowing down from that place of connection and honoring like you said you without sex for a while and Maybe you had to fill yourself up. In other ways in order to come back to that place or even a better place not to a better place and and What I learned about myself. Well, really what I did is The gifts that I have been developing the the intuitive gifts that I’ve been developing over the years I went much much deeper into them and and got to a place where I stopped judging myself for for being a psychic and and when I stopped doing that I was able to Really see how gifted I was and and and that’s That’s really where I focused. I focused on my on my gifts and in my values and and and and that empathic separation, you know knowing what what is what what are my sensations and what are somebody else’s and doing the work to send that energy back to them and And that sort of thing and the other things that I learned how to do too was I was I learned how to manifest in Other rooms, you know, so have that happened here in the physical realm. So those things were happening while I was consciously Had chosen to be celibate and I also and they didn’t do this part on purpose But it happened perfectly. It was also during the two years of not having a period so like that first two years and I I would highly recommend to anybody who is their period has just stopped or they know that it has stopped and that they find this like cave like Place to go deep in to go deep into themselves and and find their gifts their wisdom their values and And develop them during that time That’s beautiful. That’s beautiful Yeah, I felt that Way, you know in the in the wake of like not having that resistance Like this. I mean I’ve gone from never wearing dresses Never being never wanting to be a woman. You know that whole thing to the embracing of it and when I started to go through like Like early menopause like I keep you know on this little roller coaster of early menopause. I noticed that I was really afraid Too Because my mom is gone and I Didn’t know like I mean to ask her and like to say, you know mom, you know my gonna still be okay with this and and that but then to seek out women like yourself like my client and just notice that oh, that doesn’t That doesn’t have to end because sex is such an important part of my life personally. I love And another thing I’ve learned, you know over the course is not to attach my sexuality or my pleasure to a person Uh-huh, and just to know that that is a part of who I am like I am pleasure aha, and then and then being able to honor myself because that’s what I hear from you like honoring the cell is Something we just don’t spend enough time as one more young and I do see a lot of younger generation a lot of women who don’t want to be women who think that they have to compete They have to in order to be equal. They have to be a man or like a man first is the shift in awareness to Let’s not compete and we could still get I believe That we can still get everything we want and more and we just lean into who we really are Like you’re talking about. Yeah your intuitive abilities my Sexual You know explosiveness my lover You know, I always resisted falling in love because I thought it came up attachment Mm-hm and Then when I did I was like oh this feels so rich and delicious And I just have so much love and appreciation for this person and I’m still good at doing my own thing You know he walked away, you know now I mean I would still be I might be sad I don’t think sadness is a bad thing That’s another thing not to resist is That you know, we can be optimistic but allow the roller coaster like I like to cry Yeah, and grief is a process Wanna it’s it’s a natural process and and in our society We don’t give grief the place that it needs to to really one honor what it is that you’re grieving and then to Like to let that go and then to bring something else in but it’s a process It is not something that happens overnight Yeah, yeah, that’s definitely surrender into grief, right? And I think it’s just part of the roller coaster of life. You know, you’re gonna have your ups you’re gonna have your downs you’re gonna have You know just sensations that are You know, I spoke about this today in my podcast was like, you know, you have different sensations and what I’ve learned you know in the what I learned data, I just went to a You know during my exploration when I was learning orgasmic meditation I also went to a I don’t know some type of chamber or they did, you know BDSM Uh-huh, and this guy I you know, I was just curious on a scientific level. I was just very curious I didn’t really feel like it was for me But I was very curious and when this guy told me he’s like pleasure and pain come from the same spot mm-hmm that you know to not have to be so attached to Just everything has to feel good. Everything has to be joyful is might I mean as joyful as I am I think I must join now because I stopped resisting The down yeah Yeah so So, what do you see? I know we’re getting we’re getting up here in the time we could probably go on for days What do you see in the development on the horizon around? clairvoyance and Intuition to you. What what do you see personally? For me And for the world for the off for the world, oh my gosh. So what I see for the world is that The the world itself mother earth her vibration is getting higher and higher and And when I say her vibration is getting higher and higher what that means to me. Is that is that things are getting less and less dense and and what’s happening is is the the energetic grids that We used to communicate with we used to live with we used to work with They’re breaking down and most of that has to do with the with the control that the control the controlled masculine, which is what I would call the patriarchy and And that’s breaking down and so as that’s breaking down What’s happening is the evolved feminine is? coming and becoming more aware of her gifts and Her gifts are very intuitive. Her gifts are empathic. Her gifts are creation Her gifts are all of these wonderful things and but her gifts are also flow the state of flow And you know and so The evolved masculine the way that I see it and this is you know the next this new level of grid that’s that’s coming onto the planet now is that this evolve masculine is strong and it’s accepting and it’s Grounded and and and it just wants her to create And the way she creates is she used her gifts. She uses her values she gets into the state of flow and I see that happening more and more and more. I see that That more and more people are starting to become aware of these differences and in that oh, I Have a little bit more control here than I thought I did and not in a bad way But in a good way in a non-attached way, and that’s really an oxymoron It’s like you can actually have control and not be attached at the same time And so these these gifts these abilities People do like you doing podcasts, you know it’s like meditations and there’s just so much information out there and Yeah, and it’s I I just see that we’re going to be able to communicate with each other In a in a more loving way in a in a more accepting way in a you know, yeah Yeah So I’m wrapping up here I love what you just said because I want to acknowledge it I what I heard you say was and this is my vision of how I see men, but I feel like Tom asked me all this time all the time are you happy and I think that as Much as you know, we don’t want to be attached to another person’s happiness men can’t help but that’s truly What I feel and what I sensed, you know through orgasmic meditation Was this ability for men to actually open their hearts? without being without being basically violated by women, you know just like The things that I love, I love it We have an agreement that Tom opens the door for me that’s been a thing that women have like don’t open my door Don’t pay for my check. Don’t do this. Don’t do that and I think there’s a shift in that like, you know, we owe it always has to get kind of like Like almost like people have to fight for it And then when they just realize that’s not how you get what you want and and you use the word agreement. Yeah, see Oh, so there’s this also this grid that I’m talking about this new grid is Oh creative grid Yes, you know, so we’re making we’re going to be making more Agreements that are really true agreements. They’re not you know, they’re not passive-aggressive they are Yeah, I want to do that. Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, great These are the points and yeah, this is gonna work for both of us And and that’s how I believe the state of flow works Is that when you have those agreements with somebody and you and you’re in this co-creative place? Then flow happens. Oh my gosh, so true In fact, our statement is because Tom and I are both tend to be people pleasers, right? And so I I created this statement for both of us I heard it and then I brought it into our relationship right and it was if I could have it all my way Because I love what you’re talking about there this and I think this is one of the most powerful pieces that we’ve spoken about but the ability for us to UM Really if we if we think from a place like you said obnoticus? I think you you bypass your own intuition Like you don’t really create from that truth of yourself when you say if I could have it on my way And when you write that down Number one I think you become unlimited You enter this data flow because now there’s no more resistance Because we’ve been taught that you can’t always have it your way I’ve been hearing that, you know, it’s a kid and I’m sure you did You can’t always have it your way. But look, I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that at all I believe that this universe is more infinite than we have even tapped the surface on Right, and and when when tom and I both say if I could have it on my way We create agreements based on expansion and unlimitedness and not on lack or Acquiescence, right Yeah Yeah, so I love what you’re saying because I think that is one of the most powerful That’s how I see it It’s not gonna be against you know, we had to kind of play that game right against against against women I’m gonna objectify women and over here. I’m gonna mask you late men, but I think this is an area of this new expansion of Co-creation of love of care and of kindness. Yes kindness, not nice To take care of yourself, right Okay, do you have any final thoughts and where can we find you so if we wanted to have a beautiful session with you Oh, thank you I love this so much. This is it’s oh so exciting. It’s so exciting to share. I love sharing and Yeah, my final thoughts are keep doing what you’re doing and have people sharing And where can we find you at Um, my website is Deb DEP Petrelli Pia’s and Paul II TR I ll e com Yes, and I will put that link in the show notes and you can book a 15 minute free session with Deb She’s giving you gifts cuz she loves to share and she has amazing gifts and um, she said this about me so I know it mirrors who she is, but she said Women what I love about Darlene is she gives you all of her attention and you feel like you’re the only one in the world and I’m gonna say back at you baby because Deb is a person that was truly. I mean one of the best listeners in the world and I think to be heard and seen In the way that she will hear and see you will support you to really open up your own gifts your own Confidence and your own joy in who you really are and celebrate that so thank you so much for being here again, and I Can’t wait to do this again with you All right, thank you everyone for joining us and remember to subscribe download and You know love us up and we’ll talk to you soon

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